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#1392986 - 09/02/04 11:18 AM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Sorry I have to disagree there Ivor for the first time ;\)

The actors in Aces High are superb, Malcolm McDowell, Trevor Howard, Sir John Gielgud, Christpher Plummer are some of the finest English actors and that's how English officers would have behaved then, very formal etc.
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#1392987 - 09/02/04 11:49 AM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Well, Pov, I just got the Blue Max on DVD today - had the video for a while - and it looks just as good as it did when I first saw it in the Cinema over 30 years ago. OK they have maltese crosses not greek and they overdid the lozenge fabric a bit but the attention to detail is pretty good overall and for me it's the best WW1 flying movie I ever expect to see. RB3D in its current form does a rather good job of recreating that Blue Max feeling, for me anyway, and probably for that reason I expect it'll be my no.1 WW1 sim for a long while, WoW notwithstanding.

Also got a second hand copy of Rowan's Dawn Patrol, 1995, an RB1/RB2 competitor presumably, will see if DOSbox can get that running on my machine. Gotta have 'em all, bit of a collector at heart :rolleyes:
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#1392988 - 09/02/04 02:41 PM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Surprised no one has mentioned the all time classic "Dawn Patrol", with Errol Flynn and David Niven.

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#1392989 - 09/02/04 04:13 PM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Ivor yes I bought the Blue Max on DVD too superb film in it's own right let alone WW1. RB3D especially with one of the top mods like FCJ, HA or WPF is the definitive WW1 sim. All others have a long way to go to surpass it for depth, immersion
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#1392990 - 09/02/04 05:37 PM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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It's not strictly a narrative, but the Canadian NFB docu-drama Aces: A Story of the First Air War is one of the best collections of WW1 flight footage I have come across.

Done as a grandfather's recollection to his son, it tells a tale of the progress of flight and its impact in wartime.

I also agree with Polovski. Aces High was a fine film. A little wonky on the historical opponents but enjoyable. The scene where Malcolm stands up to address the students and it suddenly cuts to him frantically changing a lewis ammo drum is some great film making. You get a real sense of the panic involved in combat.

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#1392991 - 09/02/04 05:54 PM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Yes Polovski, RB3D will take some beating. Yes it has little fits of stuttering and yes you get some sky banding sometimes and the view system is a bit whacky, the AI can't get you on the deck and overdoes the roller-coaster act; but it's very rare in that it's got depth as well as breadth and the graphics with the wrappers and latest patches are pretty hot even now. Still the Gold Standard. A good lesson in How To Do a Sim, pity few devs are paying attention anymore.
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#1392992 - 09/03/04 12:19 AM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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I cant get Dawn Patrol to run on my setup with DOS Box... The graphics are garbled... \:\( If anyone has a fix, please e-mail me! ArgonV at AOL dot COM
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#1392993 - 09/03/04 03:37 AM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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No joy with Dawn Patrol on XP at the first attempt, possibly messed up the game's video setup routine as I get 3 Empire logos side by side and a hang-up when I try to run in DOSBox, will have another go this evening probably.
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#1392994 - 09/03/04 07:47 AM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Originally posted by Ivor H:
Yes Polovski, RB3D will take some beating. Yes it has little fits of stuttering and yes you get some sky banding sometimes and the view system is a bit whacky, the AI can't get you on the deck and overdoes the roller-coaster act; but it's very rare in that it's got depth as well as breadth and the graphics with the wrappers and latest patches are pretty hot even now. Still the Gold Standard. A good lesson in How To Do a Sim, pity few devs are paying attention anymore.
I agree it's good. It would be superb with trackir working. I've been trying to use that Trackmapper http://kaf.tri6.net/trackmapper/
but no luck yet.
I can get the mouse moving great as per trackir in both F1 and F2 views, but I cannot get the views themselves.
Do any of you geniuses want to download it and have a go at getting it working?
A Blue Max will be awarded to whoever achieves it for us, and by Ursula Andress herself \:D
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#1392995 - 09/03/04 05:41 PM Re: Best WWI air combat movies?
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Well I can't as I don't have TrackIR yet, but thinking about it.
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