thanks

i think I need help on all decals operations

up to now, the only thing I did was using photoshop templates and repainting the skin layers to get new camouflage.

I just adapted the decals.ini file to remove markings not needed...

but here they speak about a decal covering the whole wing, how???

I think a decal is possible, but I agree with Nosecone - it will be difficult. I have has success with a rudder decal for a J-6/MiG-19, only took about an hour of resizing and moving it around using the decal.ini.
Both the JASDF & Belgian skins are looking very good.
Nosecone, I thought you had some serials made up already, from a previous post?

Sony, did you paint paint your serials on or use a decal? I have found a good color pic of 'FX 26' in natural metal from 1964, a color drawing of 'FX 1' and a side & top view of the camo scheme for reference.

Am thinking about doing a couple Spanish AF skins, one in Anti-corrision grey, and a natural metal skin form Escadron 104.
We might want to combine efforts, in order to speed things up a bit, and add several more skins for download - let me know what you both think....

These RoCAF birds are overall light grey, with better shots of the wings.

always willing to share

Please let me see your pics

email : sony.tuckson@skynet.be)

I painted the serials since I don't know about decals at this time

will read tutorials tomorrow

I'm glad to participate

do you have a decals.ini file to show me (with added decals of course)

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Sony Tuckson

If you are looking for a good example please download my A-4G decal set. It is a custom made Australian Navy Skyhawks. The file size is small and there are many examples.
http://www.biohazcentral.com/modules.php...download&sid=14
Also don't forget to download Skypat's extractor which can also be found in this and other sites.
For the artwork stuff helpful programs are MS Paint(for quick touch-ups) and a advance graphics editor like Adobe Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro(which i and Crab-02 are using). The last 2 can handle alpha channels.

So you can repaint your Belgium National markings too.
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Crab_02

Yes i agree we should all combine efforts since we will all benefit from sharing components of this project.

Did i mention about serial decals ?If i did i can't seem to find them in my HD.

btw the white wing effect above was taken at favourable angles...otherwise they look similar to the fuselage.

I spent an entire day's timeframe to paint the wings white so to make the decals i suggest we try modify produce the super decals from the painted wing bitmaps.

Sony & crab

So how about if i send you my set of painted white wings and you all try to "adapt" it to become a large decal ? I think the national markings can still working by just overlapping each other....crab has done this b4.

what do you think ?

I thought you had posted a few shots of your 'J' model with numbers awhile back.
Am having no luck with the wing decals, I have made a set at 256 x 256 but they will not show up - maybe we should try something along the lines of the F4_SQTAILL008.tga, with a 'faded' or translucent effect???
I will contunue to paint the white on the wings, at least it will work on the Grey schemes, where it is not as specular....
I can send you the 3 serial sets & decal.ini for the RoCAF when you are ready.
Sony, if you want I can try to make up a set of serials for your skin also and you can use/mod them as needed...

Have been doing some experimentation with the decals. Results inconclusive

Perhaps there are better ways to make the white more transculent but this is what turned up. Don't worry about the national marking though..they can be "adjusted".
From what seen in pics the lines/rivets show prominently even on white wings.




This set with the solid white instead.



I will try see whether there is a way to adjust the wing's specular independently before attempting to draw the lines/rivets.

Interesting, what size decal did you use?
Mine would simply not show up.

Trying to make a shark mouth for a VF-111 F-4B.......

Will post some more pics.

Actually for this experiment the decal was sized at only 128x128...a square with white allover.

But in the .ini file i made the scale 20 for the benefit of the experiment.

Now to figure how to add the lines.

Crab_02

The F-104J serial number you saw awhile ago was not the real stuff. It had the orange flightsuited pilot as well.

It was actually a stock silver 104 with klaatu's MFG2 starfighter decal.

and roger.
Maybe paint the lines on the skin a dark color, so they will show through the decal?

Am enjoying this shark mouth decal on the F-4!!!
It is a real bear to get the contour correct.